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05.13.08 03:26 PM

When Did Madonna Get Black?

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It's funny. Around the same time that fellow writer Clay Cane was saying Madonna Goes Black (Again), I was wondering exactly when was it that she ever got black. I had written a post then, but sat on it for reasons I don't care to mention at this point. And while I now know that Clay thinks Madonna is black after her 106 & Park appearance with Terrance and Rocsi, I still want to know how and when. So my post still has legs, even though this episode is over like a fat rat.

Granted, if you're an old head like me, Madonna was always a part of your record collection. She made danceable risqué, club music and her dancers and background singers always felt familiar and soulful -- read black, or at least mostly black. And if nothing else, the black kids got them. No not kids -- family -- as in LGBT. Madonna pumped at the Garage and Warehouse (you old New York heads know what I mean) just as much as Colonel Abrams ("I'm Not Gonna' Let You") and Marshall Jefferson ("Move Your Body"). Granted, "Borderline" was hot, but it was not black. Not at all. Not even octoroon.

In recent years though, Madonna was on an a hybrid electronica/rock kick that often alienated whatever black audience she once had. This was until her new release, Hard Candy, which features Timbaland, Kanye, Pharrell, and ghetto-pass wearing Justin Timberlake. Besides, her duo with Timberlake, "4 Minutes," somehow found itself on the 106 & Park Top 10. So in that regard her appearance on the show made sense -- for marketing that is. I'm still not buying the blackness.

I suppose the lineup of black-ish producers and guest appearances must equate with Madge being born again black. Sites like Soulbounce didn't even believe it when they first heard the announcement of her appearance. Speculation was extremely high.

It was an awkward episode, as Clay mentions. But not just because Madonna is utterly weird all by her lonesome. The entire affair was extremely weird -- extremely. From the way Terrance and Rocsi ogled at her, to the aloof manner in which she responded to their questions, even down to the placement of various (white) hipsters in the crowd. You know, I think it was the first time I ever saw white folks in the audience at 106 & Park. Call me crazy if I'm wrong. They also looked a little too old to blend in with that particular audience.

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I'm not even mad at her PR team for realizing that her success with this $120 million LiveNation deal will come from her connecting with younger music aficionados. But perhaps a visit to TRL would have seemed a little less weird, though given Madonna's persona, perhaps Clay is right, it wouldn't really have mattered who was interviewing her. I'm just still a little concerned by how Terrance and Rocsi didn't know what to do, or they sincerely felt they were being graced by the presence of a legend -- perhaps even, The Madonna.

Don't get me wrong, I love(s) me some Madonna. But the kids (13 - 21) who live in my 'hood don't really connect with chick. And maybe that's just what this appearance was all about. If I've said it 100 times before, I'll say it again, it's still going to take a lot more than a virtual fanclub and a bunch of photos to hit this sweet spot you're courting. Need a social media consultant? Give me a call. I've seen your Twitter account, and you ain't ready.

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Can we please, please get "I've seen your Twitter account, and you ain't ready." on a t-shirt? That is the most awesome phrase I've read all day.

posted by Michelle | May 13, 2008 4:32 PM #

Just wanted to add Madonna's big house tracks in the Chicago clubs were "Everybody","Physical Attraction","Into the Groove" and of course "Holiday".

Great post. The 106 and Park episode was painful to watch. She had this "who booked me on this amateur mess right here?" look on her face.

posted by Kristasphere | May 13, 2008 9:26 PM #

I've long since questioned 106's TRL asthetic. The Madonna was funny to hear about, though. And I'd like to co-sign the T-shirt idea!

posted by Roddykat | May 14, 2008 2:28 AM #

madonna did get airplay on 98.7 kiss before she got it on z-100. so in that regard, she's "black," though in a hall & oates kind of way.

i also think she's black in that way that MiJac, Lionel Richie, DeBarge, Janet Jackson, and the Jets were in the '80s. my memory could be faulty, but how many white artists were doing danceable stuff in the 80s? and how 'black' was "thriller"?

i think this "106 & Park" appearance is an attempt to reconnect with that early audience though. but it's awkward because Madonna is weird and she's 40+. if you're over 30, "106 & Park" is just not a good look. even kanye looks too old to be up there, and he's far more recent and relevant.

part of the problem is, though, there's no real video or music shows for adults now that VH1 has gone the MTV route.

how do you market an artist that's making music for the 21 - 45 set?

posted by Tiffany B. Brown [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 14, 2008 7:20 AM #

Rumor has it that she didn't appear on the cover of her first single in order to confuse people into believing she was Black ... but really? I've always found that hard to believe because I know what Black women sound like.

posted by Donald [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 14, 2008 2:26 PM #

Funny...I remember my Mom speaking of Madonna hanging in the Paradise Garage. Mom used to laugh about how she tried so hard. Mom still has her PG photo id.

posted by DJ Diva | May 14, 2008 10:59 PM #

of course i remember madonna on WPLJ sandwiched next to shannon's "let the music play" back in the day. was she black then? or more so with the "bedtime stories" album jacking producers from TLC and joi? madge is 50 this august. i dare her to make another pop album targeted to the kiddies after "hard candy."

posted by MML | May 15, 2008 5:40 AM #

I think you're giving these TV people a little too much credit. At the end of the day who's going to be the one to say no to Madonna, "No 106 & Park is not right for you..."? Exactly, so under lack of better judgment you will see this happen more and more as TV tries to cater to name brand artist that are slowly dwindling away to the internets. Lynne, you've met the gate keepers and they have all have a 1 track mind about these types of things. Cover the traditional (Radio/TV) ignore the new vehicles (Internet/Wireless) and exchange business cards (Kiss ass). These people are clueless, but they all still have jobs ;)

PS: Madonna is as white as they come.

posted by LaLaFuFu dotcom | May 15, 2008 5:19 PM #

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