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01.28.05 12:21 PM
is it a new day in rap music?
"yeah I used dude voice props to the boy sean/ he made it a hot line I made a hot song" - Cassidy, "I'm A Hustler"
These under 25 rappers are starting to trip me out. One claims he's the king of the south - a title held by Scarface like forever. Another takes a jay hook uses it, then tries to dis him on said song while biting a line jay used to dis nas with. The king of the south dude also samples jay on "Bring Em Out," which makes jay become this somewhat classic hip hop figger (yeah i said figger).
And this cassidy kid goes on to spit - "C-A-double S-I-D-Ycause I became the best when B-I-G died/ the kid do it big like P-U-N cuse/ I'm nice P-A-C with the P-E-N"
Then you got this otha' gamey son out in the West Coast talking 'bout "And i dont do button up shirts or drive Maybachs/ All u old record labels tryin to advance/ Aftermath bitch take it like a mutha fuckin man," on this west side story. And then, "I did a song with Mary Blige, my niggas/ Got a hook from faith/ No verse from Jay/ I guess on westside story/ He thought i spit in his face/ I told Ed Lover and Monie Luv/ I was talkin to Ja/ With that maybach line/ It was payback time." And on top of that this game one - he's still at it illmatic, you heard.
Aight, so at least he doesn't take shots at hip-hop's most recent legends.
It's a new day in rap music for sure. I suppose it's time for all the old heads to move out the way, 'cuz these cats are definitely trynna' take over - and they'll stop at nothing. And since they're all popping out real big after 50 - though a few of them have been in the game earlier - they've learned a few lessons from him.
1. Dis the hottest nikkas and it'll advance your career.
2. Also do as many raps as you can that contain similar flows as Jay-Z, Eminem, 'Pac, or BIG.
3. Sound hard and thuggish, even if you ain't a real gangsta' - just tell stories that people will believe.
4. Get shot or stabbed, or shoot or stab someone.
5. Get the hottest beats from the hottest producers, and make sure you have a hook that the entire world can sing (even if they don't want to, but it'll sound so much like Barney's "I Love You" that they'll have to).
I'm not knocking kids. I see 'em coming up. But they got a lot of bullish confidence - on one side that's a good thing - a real good thing, but on the other side of the coin, it's like "smack" "sit down nikka" "learn yo' ass some lessons first".
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I give T.I. credit because I think he's actually talented. The Game i'm not sure about. On his current tracks, 50 and Dre and Em all take precedence and I don't find any of his non-mixtape rhymes very memorable.
I just can't see Cassidy.
Going after S-Dot is an interesting tactic because I don't think they are going to get him to rhyme back so I don't know how much get back there will be.
posted by Jason T.
| January 28, 2005 1:54 PM #
Yeah, these cats are walking a fine line. It was good to hear Jay taking Cassidy's song with a grain of salt. Wondering why you can't get to your favorite wrekka stow or iTunes to pick up Cassidy's hot club banger? Well it's because Mr. Carter hasn't released the sample to Swizz Beats yet. He mentioned on Flex's show that he will clear it though.
Afterall, it is a hot song...
posted by KB
| January 28, 2005 2:05 PM #
I bought The Game, and let me tell you, that's the most dissapointing CD I've gotten in the past 6 months. Seriously.
posted by ej
| January 28, 2005 2:34 PM #
Lynne,
Hip-hop is taking the same turn that pop music took five years ago. When no talents like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan (sp?), and Hillary Duff start replacing old heads like Janet and Madonna--you knew that hip-hop wasn't far behind.
Its like music is so lowest common denominator now.
Bernard Bradshaw
Sex and the Second City.com
posted by Bernard Bradshaw | January 28, 2005 6:18 PM #
Bernard read my thoughts before I wrote them. I have to agree. Hip Hop is not in a very pleasant state right now. To even think of something nice to say about these cats right now would be pushing the limits of my kindness.
I purchased The Game's CD for my baby brother. He & listened to it while in my car, and I thought "Damn. This is really wack. If I spell & speak incoherently, can I too get a record deal?"
posted by Timi
| January 29, 2005 12:28 PM #
You guys are dissing the Game pretty hard.
I like "Higher," "Runnin" and "Like Father, Like Son." I think the Game is dope when he gets intropsective, but when he starts dropping names, I think he's trying to get his listeners to associate him with the legends -- Big, 'Pac, Easy-E, etc. It's kinda of a sneaky tactic on his part. But I don't buy into it. The Game needs to stop playing himself.
But I don't know if it was the Game or Slim Thug or T.I. who said this line:
"I'm already a legend/ Like B.I.G./ But I'm not ready to die yet."
I think it was the Game who said it. But when I heard that line I was like, "Damn, boy. You haven't paid any dues yet to be comparing yourself to the Big Man, himself. Step yo game up, son." I was shocked by that line.
Now I'm going to sound like an old fogey here:
But these young rappers need to respect their elders and/or legends.
But you know what, we -- us hip-hoppers over the age of 30 -- are no different. We dissed the legends, too. The other day, I told a peer of mines that I was excited that Public Enemy is going to drop a new album this year. (P.E. is forever with me, I don't give a fuck, I will always buy their shit.)
My friend's response:
"Public Enemy? Those niggas are played out. Who is going to buy their CD? And Flavor Flav is straight clowning himself with that ugly white woman. Don't believe the hype."
I was like, "Damn, man, respect your elders. Respect the arhitects of this shit, man."
And that's how I feel about Cassidy, Slum Thug and the Game flipping barbs at the legends. They don't care, man. Just like you said, "learn yo' ass some lessons first."
Word.
Step yo' lyrical GAME up, bitches.
posted by Trent | January 31, 2005 12:11 PM #
i'm not personally saying i can't get with the game's album - it has it's momemts as trent has illustrated - and slim thug definitely ain't bad at all - but of all these youngin's T.I.'s my favorite regardless of his boasting - what emcee gets anywhere w/out boasting
see i know i'm well over 30, but i can appreciate real talent when i hear it - i give it a fair chance - and when an old skooler makes an album that's wack - i'll call that shit too
posted by lynne | January 31, 2005 2:33 PM #
it's hard to hate on the youngsters for biting when they've seen jay make a career off of doing.
Big L (RIP) on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga
"All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
jay-z on A Million and One Questions
"All I got for chicks is hard dic*k and bubble gum"
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jay-z (takeover)
"Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
Dre on the 2001 LP..
"You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"
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Jay-Z (give it to me)
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuc*k 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh?
Drunk off Crist"
Biggie: (the world is filled)
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuc*k em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks
Drunk of Dom"
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Jay-Z: (squeeze first)
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last
That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
Biggie: (hypnotize)
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last
That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"
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Jay-Z: (- "Squeeze 1st" )
"thou shalt not fuc*k with raw me, or he
Face a thousand deaths...
Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
"Thou shalt not fuc*k with raw C-Poppa
Feel a thosand deaths...
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Jay-Z: (- "Friend or Foe 98" )
"Do me a favor dude, get 2 ice cubes I pass them
Take that ice up, for the nicest MC"
Biggie: (- "Unbelievable" )
"Get ready to die, tell God I said hi
And throw down some ice, for the nicest MC"
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Jay-Z: (- "The Ruler's Back" )
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
Biggie: (-"Kick in The Door" )
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"
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Jay-Z: (-"Girls...RMX" )
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
Biggie: (- "One More Chance" )
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"
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Jay-Z: (real nig*gaz)
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niqqaz do real things"
Biggie: (real nig*gas)
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niqqaz do real things"
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Jay-Z: (- "Frestyle" )
"Old school, new school need to know this
I burn like Left Eye Lisa Lopez"
Biggie: (- "Who Shot Ya" )
"Old school new school need to learn though
I burn baby burn like Disco Inferno"
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Jay: (- Is That Yo B1tch )
"I don't chase em I duck em I replace em"
Biggie: (- One More Chance )
"I don't chase em I replace em"
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JIGGA: (jigga my ©˜©˜©˜©˜©˜)
"From the crap tables down in A.C.
back on the block Jay-Z motherfuc*ker from the, the, the Roc
Went solo on that ass but it´s still the same
Brooklyn be the place where I serve them thangs
...You heard the name"
"he is I, and I am him
Slim with the tilted brim on twenty inch rims"
SNOOP: (Who Am I -What's My Name?-)
"From the depths of the sea, back to the block
Snoop Doggy Dogg, funky as the, the, The D.O.C
Went solo on that ass, but it´s still the same
Long Beach is the spot where I served my cane
...what's my mother****in name"
"He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim"
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Jay: (bonnie Clyde 03)
"All I need in this world of sin is me and my girlfriend"
2pac: (-Me and my girlfriend )
"All I need in this world of sin is me and my girlfriend"
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jay: (never change )
From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom
Drink army from one cup pass it around the room,
That's the ritual
Nas: ( verbal Intercourse )
From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable
Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual -
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BIGGIE
"i fuc*ked this girl, ate a ham sandwich and managed/
to damage like jeru, hey you, let's fuc*k, i like boners"
JAY-Z
"i fuc*ked this bit*ch, ate a spam manwich and managed/
to dama-ja like nero, hey you, let's fuc*k, i like hoo hoo"
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Jigga:
"Thug Nig*ga till the end, tell a friend, bitc*h"
Biggie:
"Thug nig*ga till the end, tell a friend, bitc*h"
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2pac
"im from the cuty where tha skinny niqqaz die"
jay-z (bp2)
"im from the cuty where tha skinny niqqaz die"
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2pac
"my attitude is fuc*k it, and muthafucaz love it"
jay-z (bp2)
"my attitude is fuc*k it, and muthafucaz love it"
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2pac
"this is payback, i knew you bitc*h niqqaz from way back.."
jay-z (bp2)
"this is payback, i knew you bitc*h niqqaz from way back.."
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Mase
"Why you over here looking at me, while my girl standing here"
jay-z
"Why you over here lookin at me, while all these girls up in here"
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Biggie
"It was all a dream"
Jay-z
"It was all a dream"
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Nas
"The rap version of sisqo"
Jay-z
"The rap version of T.D. Jakes"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"Aint no other kings in this rap think they siblings"
Jay-z
"Aint no other kings in this rap thing, ya kiddin"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"Kick In The Door waving the 4x4 all I heard was biggie i dont want it no more"
Jay-z
"Kick In The Door waving the 4x4 all I heard was jigga i dont want it no more"
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Notorious B.I.G.
"I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby.. baby."
Jay-z
"I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin wit Jay-Z, Jay-Z"
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Nas
"Somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game"
Jay-Z
"Somehow the rap game reminds me of the crack game"
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Jay-Z
"Rocafella is a army, better yet the navy/niccas will kidnap your baby spit at your lady"
BG
"Cash Money is a army, better yet the Navy/so if you ever playa hate me for you, it aint gravy"
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Jay-Z
"in these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like jay -z"
slick rick
"in these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like ricky d."
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Jay-Z
"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun..." - "s. carter"
rakim
"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun..." - "no competition
posted by hardCore | January 31, 2005 3:44 PM #
Nas (Last Real Nigga Alive)
"Lord Have Mercy, Jesus Christ he's just nice he just slice like a ginsu"
Notorious B.I.G. (DJ Enuff freestyle)
"Lord Have Mercy, Jesus Christ he's just nice he just slice like a ginsu"
posted by bdotgates | March 28, 2005 8:26 PM #
Two words, FU*K JAY-Z
It's not hard to repeat the lyrics of legends.
posted by sammi | December 11, 2005 10:55 AM #