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01.17.03 01:53 PM
hip-hop's race card
"Rapping out battle lines: How did an anonymous rhymer become the most prominent voice in a war between Enimen and hip-hop's main magazine?," by Geoff Boucher, Los Angeles Times, January 17 2003:
"In two decades as a rapper, Ray "Benzino" Scott has remained a minor player -- he can claim no gold records, no hit video on MTV or BET -- which makes it all the more fascinating that he is the most aggressive provocateur in an ugly war that pits rap's biggest star, Eminem, against the genre's most successful journal, the Source magazine."
"This week, Scott released an album that includes a track, titled "Lift Up Your Skirt," which portrays Eminem as a cultural carpetbagger, a white artist undermining a black art form. That attack escalates considerably in the February issue of the Source in a five-page interview with Scott and an accompanying cartoon poster that depicts Scott holding a gory trophy: the decapitated head of Eminem. At the top of the cover, Eminem and Scott are shown in facing photos with a challenging caption: "Step into the arena.""
"Issues of race, street credibility and success have often roiled the rap community, especially when white superstar rapper Eminem has been considered, but how did a fairly anonymous Boston rhymer become the most prominent voice in the matter? Especially now, in 2003, when many of the most acclaimed black rappers have repeatedly embraced Eminem as a talent whose urban background overrides many questions of color?"— More...
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I was at the bookstore yesterday and I checked out the current issue of The Source -- I had to chuckle myself. I hadn't the slightest idea who or what Benzino was all about until I heard "Rock The Party," <remix> with Lil' Kim on the radio a couple of week ago -- and I can't forget seeing those Made Men ads that ran forever -- Did anyone ever see the album though? Hmmm ...
posted by Antonio G | January 17, 2003 11:08 PM #
oops...
benzino will always be a markdown bin mainstay. don't be mad, UPS is hiring...
posted by dj mel | January 19, 2003 6:55 AM #
it'd be different if it were Chuck D saying this, or Afrika Bambatta, or Ice T, or KRS-1, or anyone with any hip hop credibility. but Ray Benzino? who the fuck is Ray Benzino? i mean, dude lost his credibility the minute that Made Men album got 5 mics in The Source.
See, now that's wrong, using Eminem's success as the source for his weak attempt to get some attention. I mean, he's basically saying because there is an Em, the mainstream has no need for anyone else. For one, that's bullshit. For two, REAL HIP HOPPERS DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE MAINSTREAM. Only someone as untanlented as Benzino would feel so threatened by Eminem's skills. I mean, on the real, it ain't like Nas or Redman are shaking in his boots cause they feel threatened by an Eminem.
posted by hardCore | January 21, 2003 5:08 PM #
i love the source.
let me say that first off.
but if they have benzino saying some ill shit about em. then they're getting a letter.
em has skillz. yep he's white. so benzino needs to take this to the ring...step in the ring with em and go three rounds best two outta three and tell me who will come out defeated. definitely benzino.
true hip hop fans know that em has skillz.
posted by StudPoet | January 21, 2003 8:07 PM #
Ray Benzino is fucked up all his disses on eminem are weak. He should stop well he's at it he nothing but a pussy who thinks he's a gangster. Eminem could fuck him up. Ray benzino is just jealous that eminem got more fame and that punk doesn't.
posted by Alonzo | January 28, 2003 8:20 PM #
Ray Benzino is a grandad: The simple fact is he needed some publicity for his new album. Stupidly Raymond believed that he could get this publicity by dissing Eminem - Benzino is VERY stupid to do that - At the end of the day,Benzino is nothing to Eminem, but the one thing you DO NOT do is try to diss Eminem and believe you can get away with it. Raymond,you are an eighties man who does not belong in the nineties - I heard two of the responses Eminem came out with and to tell you the truth, RAYMOND Benzino got destroyed - Pure and unadulterated destruction - It's all over Ray. Surely you know that dissing Eminem is like sticking your hand beehive and expecting not to get stung right? Hah! Eminem just has to lift his lyrical little finger and it's all over!! SLV signing off
posted by SLV (Street Level Verbalist0 | February 18, 2003 5:54 PM #
Ray Benzino is a grandad: The simple fact is he needed some publicity for his new album. Stupidly Raymond believed that he could get this publicity by dissing Eminem - Benzino is VERY stupid to do that - At the end of the day,Benzino is nothing to Eminem, but the one thing you DO NOT do is try to diss Eminem and believe you can get away with it. Raymond,you are an eighties man who does not belong in the nineties - I heard two of the responses Eminem came out with and to tell you the truth, RAYMOND Benzino got destroyed - Pure and unadulterated destruction - It's all over Ray. Surely you know that dissing Eminem is like sticking your hand beehive and expecting not to get stung right? Hah! Eminem just has to lift his lyrical little finger and it's all over!! SLV signing off
posted by SLV (Street Level Verbalist0 | February 18, 2003 5:54 PM #
Ha Ha Haa please benzino i heard you last three dissing rap i liked except one but the two dissing rap it was some shit i like your source magazine you got em by one song but the two i hope you were freestyling 'cuase if you wrote that, that is some shit you can't rap fuck off. i'm a raper start raping last year i'm better then you my brother is killer wave out.
posted by Killer wave | February 23, 2003 5:02 AM #
benzino is the stupidest mother fucker in the world right now. I mean seriously how dumb can a person be. and if ur a fuckin grandad go take care of the kid damnit cause thats the only thing u accually MIGHT be good at. Ray ur really Gay ha look i can rhyme better than u.
posted by Romeo | February 23, 2003 6:11 PM #
Em has skills, yeah yeah yeah, but Benzino is REAL. Most of Em's raps don't make sense and he complains too much. Benzino is a real nigga, my man got away with shootin' people, what Benzino raps about he ACTUALLY DOES, he's a real gangster, Em just talks nonsense. In real life Benzino will beat his ass, even though in rapping Em is better. Listen to the recording of Benzino talking to Paul Rosenburg (Eminem's manager), even Paul sounds scared of Benzino, ya know why, because Benzino will really do something, not just talk shit like Eminem. that's my view, PeAcE!
posted by DJ Drew | March 11, 2003 10:10 AM #
PS --- Listen to Benzino's Redemption CD, tracks 2,5,11,12,15, and 17 are tight as hell!!
posted by DJ Drew | March 11, 2003 10:12 AM #
Last thing - Em is fake for reppin' XXL magazine. I went to a Eminem concert in May of 1998 and Em was throwin' out flyers and posters dissin' XXL, that they are fake. Now look at Em, since the Source doesn't want him he goes to XXL. Now that's fake on Em's part.
posted by DJ Drew | March 11, 2003 10:14 AM #
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, 50 Cent is WHACK!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by DJ Drew | March 11, 2003 10:16 AM #
you all are wack. em is the bomb. grandpappy B sux dick!
posted by ab12 | March 12, 2003 3:24 AM #
i am a 28 year old man and i would suck marshalls winky before i would benzidos
posted by ken kaniff | March 12, 2003 3:25 AM #
if eminem took a shit i would eat the peanuts out of it. i love you em.
posted by 4 real | March 12, 2003 3:25 AM #
Everyone hates on Benzino for promoting himself in the Source, you would too if you owned your own magazine, so stop hatin' on Benzino 'cause anyone would promote themselves if they had their own magazine
posted by DJ Drew | March 12, 2003 9:32 AM #
How fucking stupid must you be to diss the best rapper in the world and expect to get away with it??? Em is a fucking lyrical genius and i would let him shit in my mouth, Benzino is a fucking fool fucking with Em, Cheap publicity bitch!!!
posted by LouEllaDee | April 7, 2003 2:13 AM #
You act like Eminem even RECOGNIZES you as a fan, haha, what a joke
posted by DJ Drew | April 14, 2003 8:42 AM #
boston, mass r where reall niggaz is from let "feminem" come round dorchester, mattapan, roxbury without his security n lets c what happens 2 that lil' bitch made motherfucker he aint shit all he does is bitch in his songs sounds like he's on his period fuckin bitch! benzino dont need shit he set 4 lyf, bloody bean niggaz will murder feminem!
posted by Guanaco | April 15, 2003 8:59 AM #
DJ Drew you are fuckin whack bro. 50 is the hottest shit out there. Benzino's shit is awful... I never haerd of him until this drama and that was his only purpose for doing it. Keep on sucking his dick you fag.
posted by nazzz | April 19, 2003 3:13 PM #
hey eminem and 50 and g unit are the shit benzino is gay and i thinkevery one just hating on eminem because he got skill
posted by notahater | April 27, 2003 4:23 AM #
hey eminem and 50 and g unit are the shit benzino is gay and i thinkevery one just hating on eminem because he got skill so thta goes out to all the haters
posted by notahater | April 27, 2003 4:23 AM #
HEY, GUYS!
U R UPSETTIN 2 MUCH... MAYBE THIS IS JUST A PAID JOKE; AGREEMENT BETWEEN EM'S MANAGER AND RAY'S ONE, RAY WANTS PUBLICITY ...EM MAYBE (MAYBE) NEED AN INSPIRATION ...AND HAS TO PROVE HIS OWN SKILLS AND SHOW IT TO THE WORLD TO STAY ON TOP OF RAP. U THINK BOUT IT ...IT'S SUSPICIOUS THAT ROSENBERG CALLED RAY ...WHY, HE AIN'T EM'S BODYGUARD ...HIS JOB IS SOMETHIN ELSE! ...U THINK I'M TALKIN CRAP? I'M FROM EUROPE AND I WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE R IN USA IN SHOWBUSINESS AND WHAT KEYS OF BUSINESS R MANY TIMES USED TO STAY ON TOP OR TO SELL SOMEBODY TO THE BUYERS OF PRODUCTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRY. YEAH, I'M FAKE U'LL SAY ...USA IS REAL, U DON'T KNOW SHIT ...AND I KNOW U R ALL GANSTAS? I DON'T BUY IT!
posted by 2real4u | April 29, 2003 12:36 PM #
HEY, GUYS!
U R UPSETTIN 2 MUCH... MAYBE THIS IS JUST A PAID JOKE; AGREEMENT BETWEEN EM'S MANAGER AND RAY'S ONE, RAY WANTS PUBLICITY ...EM MAYBE (MAYBE) NEED AN INSPIRATION ...AND HAS TO PROVE HIS OWN SKILLS AND SHOW IT TO THE WORLD TO STAY ON TOP OF RAP. U THINK BOUT IT ...IT'S SUSPICIOUS THAT ROSENBERG CALLED RAY ...WHY, HE AIN'T EM'S BODYGUARD ...HIS JOB IS SOMETHIN ELSE! ...U THINK I'M TALKIN CRAP? I'M FROM EUROPE AND I WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE R IN USA IN SHOWBUSINESS AND WHAT KEYS OF BUSINESS R MANY TIMES USED TO STAY ON TOP OR TO SELL SOMEBODY TO THE BUYERS OF PRODUCTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRY. YEAH, I'M FAKE U'LL SAY ...USA IS REAL, U DON'T KNOW SHIT ...AND I KNOW U R ALL GANSTAS? I DON'T BUY IT!
posted by 2real4u | April 29, 2003 12:36 PM #
I CAN SAY ONLY ONE THING ...YOU GANGSTAS? ...F*** YOU ...I'M FROM BALKAN ...AND I REALLY DON'T GIVE A F*** FOR BENZINO (BY THE WAY, THAT B**** STOLE THE NAME FROM MERCEDES-BENZ, HE AIN'T THAT GOOD, NOT EVEN NEAR ...HE STINKS, HE'S A F***IN HO', QUALITY IS WHAT HE CAN'T DO ...YOU KNOW?) ...I'VE HEARD YOU KILL PEOPLE ON THE STREETS ...YOU HAVE NO F***IN CLUE WHAT IS KILLIN ABOUT, B****ES. WE DON'T CARE ...IF EM GOES DOWN, WE COME FROM BALKANS TO US JUST TO K**L THAT F***IN RAT OF RAY, HE BETTA HAS GLASSES OF RAY-BAN, IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BARRY MYSELF FORE IT GETS TOO HARD TO LIVE FOR HIM! ...AND DJ DREW, DO YOU SUCK RAY'S DICK ...IS YOU HIS PUPPET ...LOSE YOURSELF, BOUNCE, MAN!
posted by Balkan-CAN! | April 30, 2003 11:50 AM #
I CAN SAY ONLY ONE THING ...YOU GANGSTAS? ...F*** YOU ...I'M FROM BALKAN ...AND I REALLY DON'T GIVE A F*** FOR BENZINO (BY THE WAY, THAT B**** STOLE THE NAME FROM MERCEDES-BENZ, HE AIN'T THAT GOOD, NOT EVEN NEAR ...HE STINKS, HE'S A F***IN HO', QUALITY IS WHAT HE CAN'T DO ...YOU KNOW?) ...I'VE HEARD YOU KILL PEOPLE ON THE STREETS ...YOU HAVE NO F***IN CLUE WHAT IS KILLIN ABOUT, B****ES. WE DON'T CARE ...IF EM GOES DOWN, WE COME FROM BALKAN JUST TO K**L THAT F***IN RAT OF RAY, HE BETTA HAS GLASSES OF RAY-BAN, IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BARRY MYSELF FORE IT GETS TOO HARD TO LIVE FOR HIM! ...AND DJ DREW, DO YOU SUCK RAY'S DICK ...IS YOU HIS PUPPET ...LOSE YOURSELF, BOUNCE, MAN!
posted by Balkan-CAN! | April 30, 2003 11:53 AM #
I CAN SAY ONLY ONE THING ...YOU GANGSTAS? ...F*** YOU ...I'M FROM BALKAN ...AND I REALLY DON'T GIVE A F*** FOR BENZINO (BY THE WAY, THAT B**** STOLE THE NAME FROM MERCEDES-BENZ, HE AIN'T THAT GOOD, NOT EVEN NEAR ...HE STINKS, HE'S A F***IN HO', QUALITY IS WHAT HE CAN'T DO ...YOU KNOW?) ...I'VE HEARD YOU KILL PEOPLE ON THE STREETS ...YOU HAVE NO F***IN CLUE WHAT IS KILLIN ABOUT, B****ES. WE DON'T CARE ...IF EM GOES DOWN, WE COME FROM BALKAN JUST TO K**L THAT F***IN RAT OF RAY, HE BETTA HAS GLASSES OF RAY-BAN, IF I WAS HIM I WOULD BARRY MYSELF FORE IT GETS TOO HARD TO LIVE FOR HIM! ...AND DJ DREW, DO YOU SUCK RAY'S DICK ...IS YOU HIS PUPPET ...LOSE YOURSELF, BOUNCE, MAN!
posted by Balkan-CAN! | April 30, 2003 11:53 AM #
Sure Benzino sold out, but if you had the power you'd do it too, Bang Ta Dis is a sick song by benzino, but I agree Eminem twisted him up, fuck made men, but you'd all do it too, fuck benzino fuck the source, fuck ice t, he has no crediblity (sending this to that fag that said he did)
posted by Sean | May 15, 2003 1:39 AM #
em dosnt now what hes getting in to fucking with boston niggaz benzinos shit is tight u can hate on him all u want but we know boston niggaz run this shit here and just like my man said em cant walk the hood without the men in black so he coundnt come around none of theese parts without security (the rox murderpan,dorchester or homocide park shit he coundnt even walk through southie) i got some white boys from boston that will bust that ass.all u suburban dick riders dont know shit go dye your hair blond and get some blue contact lences bitches BEANTOWN FOR LIFE BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by Are-Jay | August 18, 2003 8:12 PM #
fuk u i shit beans,how are you gonna give benzoreo props he must suck a good dick u fuking faggot!!!! HAHA
posted by manniac | November 22, 2003 7:04 PM #
yoo.. BENZINO IS A OLD ASS PUSSY BITCH. HE SHOULD GET KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT. SUCK MY DICK IF U DONT AGREE BITCHES
posted by nigga4life | November 30, 2003 8:48 PM #
MAN CATS SAYIN BOSTON IS WHERE THE REAL GANGSTAS AT. DETROIT IS THE HOOD ALMOST 90% ALL BLACK. IF CATS WANT WAR THEY DONT WANT IT WITH THE "D". EVEN THOUGH EM IS FROM THE SUBURB, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO EM DO YOU KNOW BENZINO'S HEAD WOULD BE PLACED ON BOSTONS STEPS. THE "D" IS THE SH%T, 7MILE LIVERNOISE REPPIN GANGSTA FROM EAST TO WEST
posted by DETROIT | January 9, 2004 9:41 PM #
dude said "i'm a raper" lol
posted by fred | May 3, 2004 4:06 AM #
yo man em is a bitch and the "d" is the fuckin gayest fuckin citie on the maps beantown is the fuckin shit i mean there r worse places than boston but some places you wouldnt wanna be caught dead in if you from fag detroit ...what im saying is that benzino represented those streets that you wouldnt want to be caught dead on so fuck all yall bitches from detroit!!!
posted by j-dog | October 27, 2004 8:13 PM #
Ya faggots keep talking New England Black Mob is comin Ya Faggots. THe D ain't large like New England. Ya don't know all us. Conn, Mass, RI. Look on da map . BOSTON, BLOODPORT, HARTFORD WATERBURY PROVIDENCE, DA FIELD, MONEY CRAVEN NEW HAVEN. SOUTH NORWALK,ETC. Nobody touchin Benzino Yall gonna acknowledge us.
posted by Connecticut Bloody Bridgeport | November 1, 2004 8:11 PM #
Ya'll sure do talk a lot of shit for being from such a small state.
posted by Texas Wreckas | December 20, 2004 2:37 AM #
BEANTOWN IZ WHERE THA REAL NIGGAZ AT DONT PLAY WITH BEANTOWN IF U NIGGAZ EVER HAVE A CHANCE COME OVER N SEE 4 URSELF ITZ NO JOKE BITCHMADE NNIGGAZ
posted by Beaniez 4 life | January 28, 2005 11:09 PM #
Boston is the best better then the rest come to southie the irish hood bitch
posted by g playa | February 26, 2005 2:19 PM #
first of all African Americans need to stop this BS do you all know your roots slavery is still here and yes its in the rap bizz. Do you all think if eminem was black he would make as much as he do. White are going to put us in slavery if we dont open our eyes i aint racist no but i aint sure letting any white person stamp on me.
news-eminem made tracks which had racist statements about Blacks. And you all still support this man- he got no excuse you all real niggers if u do.
news-he insults homosexual and that craker had an realtionship with a male in detroit secrtley hes a fag in denial 11 years homos can know be proud
hes a pac impersonator- pac said things about his momma he say shit about his momma he claims he struggled to get where he is(news flash) the crackers from the Suburbs his trying to take the ghetto there.He knows his poppa come on peopl hes munipulating you especially u the african americans.eminem wasnt born in DT and he never lived in 8mile he was introduced to 8mile by an Africn American who used to be his friend not any more he said em was raciest
BLACKS DONT BE FOOLED HE AINT SHIT
he aint real and when he says I got skeletons on my closet and no body knows it (secrets) which hes gay
he talks about one it would be exposed (exactly)hes boyfriend spilled the beans even though he was payed by eminem to keep a secret
and guess what a member of the d12 knew of the relationship guess who? I leave that u
posted by jessica | April 15, 2005 11:24 AM #
Emin3m is the greatest, and benzino can drop dead for all i care.
So sad to see you all fighting about who's in the most dangerous city that's stupid grow the fuck up
posted by Tako | September 8, 2005 7:27 AM #
It doesnt really matter if you're black or white, gay or straight. Who cares? Who the fuck cares? The fact is, Em is a better lyricist than Benzino. However Benzino is hard and drops nice beats and is one of the only artist who had the balls to go about and dis EM. I have two of Eminems albums and one of Benzino's. They both have different styles of rap. If Benzino was exposed as much as Em was then im sure he'd be just as popular as him. Thats all Zino is tryin 2 do by dissin em. Benzino's punchlines are alot better than EM's, they just dont sound as good cause em can flow and zno cant. Zino would fuck Eminem up in a fight tho, one on one...well, maybe not cause eminem would pistol whip him
posted by Gino | October 28, 2005 1:21 PM #
First of all; cats argueing over the net about whos city is the hardest... damn, thats weak
im embarrased of people talking on this shit about Boston. I got love for Boston cause its my home. We just like any major city in the states; but if your trying to rep yourself on the net, your makin us all look stupid; im sure that peeps in queens, and BX aren't arguing on the net.. just stop
posted by sahen | March 1, 2006 12:31 AM #
FUCK ALL YOU TALKIN SHIIT ABT EMINEM..........EMINIEM IS THE BOMB HE GOT SKILLS THAN THAT FAGGOT ZINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fuck zino i am gonna kill his bitch black ass NOW!
DETRIOT!
posted by MiLaDe | March 17, 2006 12:08 PM #