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08.16.05 12:33 PM
hip-hop hates me
looks like some kids got chips on their shoulders about Vibe's hip-hop bloggers list
in this post ian links to two places that have started threads about it
these discussions raise some important questions:
1. why do you read vibe if you think it's so wack?
2. if you don't care about lists, why are you talking about them so much?
3. why don't you create your own lists - if lists are so important to you? or better yet, make sure your blogroll only includes the blogs that you feel warrant the title "best hip-hop blog" (i know hashim created one somewhere, but i can't find it now. update: that was hiphopblogger's A-list of hip-hop blogs not Hashim's. sorry Hashim i credited that to you in this post)
now to be quite honest - i am not a hip-hop blogger - i often get pegged as such, b/c since 2001, on this site, i have been talking about music - and the music i most talk about happens to be hip-hop - and often i get pegged as a hip-hop feminist blogger b/c of this post, among others (but it ain't all i talk about or know)
y'alls beef w/Exo or the Vibe does not have to become beef w/the people who were listed there (post and write about who the best hip-hop bloggers are, and you can do that w/out spewing venom at the people who were included). this press release about The Mindset Army's takeover of exo's domain warscribe.blogspot.com says:
| "In the VIBE story, he paints a purposely skewed picture of hip-hop blogging and chooses to highlight only the hip-hop bloggers he was chummiest with, many of whom also happen to be low-level hip-hop journalists.">>> |
i have a lot of respect for you young gunnahs representing hip-hop to the fullest on the Web. (and i can't forget the veteran). these types of blogs fill a void that the mainstream hip-hop media and music media leaves wide open - but truth is these hardcore nuhs running through my block representing hip-hop on some gangsta' ish wouldn't even consider a "hip-hop blog" real hip-hop, or would consider this hip-hop blog thing straight pussy, or even better as joey said don't even know wtf a hip-hop blog is or that they exist...
| "With increasing regularity, I hear tales from friends about companies, organizations, and twenty-somethings that/who have absolutely no idea about what a blog is or "how they work." (Yeah, you just wind 'em up and they create buzz.) I have no fewer than three friends who didn't even know the word "blog." And I also read reports which claim that only two percent of households contain people who use syndicated site feeds. If so few people really know what blogs are and read them with such irregularity, those same people shouldn't be making bullshit lists.">>> |
and finally in the words of T.I. (edited for my own purposes of course)
No doubt, it's all good, y'all just statin y'all opinion
But on the Web and in the hood it's understood without sayin
It's a given, and ain't because of what I'm doin for a livin
It's, mo' because of what I do and how I'm livin
I'm a Queen - just respect it and keep my name out'cha mouth
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Comments
It's really childish to get upset over a website being overlooked for a list.
*sigh*
Anyway...It's great to see that someone is taking the "high rode" in this mess. :)
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| August 16, 2005 2:22 PM #
people out there only see what a weblogger oftenly writes about on his/her weblog, and then they take a conclusion that your weblog is a hip hop weblog just because the most of the music you're writing about is hip hop. That's not a wonder, actually, they probably found your weblog after adding 'hip hop' as keywords
posted by anonymuis | August 16, 2005 2:36 PM #
MINDSET!!! MINDSET!!!! MINDSET!!!
posted by The Pope | August 16, 2005 6:21 PM #
So we're clear:
1) I like this site (and it remains on my blogroll, along with the other sites I like)
2) I have a beef with that list because, to me, it doesn't reflect real consideration of so much good writing on the interwebs. Instead, it seems like some MSM contrivance that was created in response to a line of questioning like "Which are the websites we *should* be listing? Like, which sites correspond with what we make hot? Who are the people we know or have heard about?"
3) I don't have beef with the authors of the listed sites. I don't like some of the music, and I grow increasingly frustrated that music I don't like crowds out music I do like, but my post and objection to the list was not meant as a personal attack on anyone. I don't know if I was implicated in making things personal, but I regret if I was, because that was not my intention. I simply don't care for the content of a site that glorifies a subgenre in which I have limited and fleeting interest.
posted by Joey | August 16, 2005 6:33 PM #
Joey, it's all good. I enjoyed reading your post, actually. It's what the web is about - freedom of speech. You didn't agree with the list so you posted what you felt was wrong with it.
My point is that I don't think it's fair for people to slander, belittle, or denigrate those who did make the list - just b/c they made it. People are up in arms about what they believe is the philosophy behind why and how the people were chosen - so it's not about the people who were chosen.
I think I read something on the mindset army group about writing letters to the magazine - actions like those along with your post, going on message boards (vibe's included) and discussing the list - are productive and constructive forms of criticism.
Truth in perspective:
1) I never said I was a hip-hop blog (others have)
2) The blogs mentioned in Vibe were listed under the heading - "Blogs to Visit" - not "Best Hip-Hop Blogs" - basically representing what the writer felt was worthy of showcasing
3) I'm a little too grown to get caught up in this rah-rah - yet I also felt I could not sit by idly when I've never spit any grime in anyone's direction...
4) And, perhaps I shouldn't have even written this post, because it places me in the position of giving all of this far too much energy
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| August 16, 2005 7:07 PM #
Break it down Lynne . . . break-it-doooown.
posted by Angelique | August 17, 2005 8:46 AM #
Wow... people get all worked up over some blogs man? Come on now... there is life outside of the internet...
posted by Qubian "Q" Salazar-Moreno | August 17, 2005 7:09 PM #
> but truth is these hardcore nuhs running through my block representing hip-hop on some gangsta' ish wouldn't even consider a "hip-hop blog" real hip-hop, or would consider this hip-hop blog thing straight pussy....
LOL - that's real talk. I'm a pretty active blogger but I have to admit that doing a blog is an inherently geeky activity looked at from a certain perspective although frankly, repping music that's essentially poetry -- even if it's often full of violence and sex -- over beats best suited to dancing could be considered straight pussy too if you looked at THAT from the right angle.
posted by ian | August 19, 2005 6:23 PM #
Byron Crawford is the shit.
posted by dddd | March 24, 2006 11:13 AM #