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02.03.05 06:40 PM

da hip-hop feminists bout to shut 50 down

we all know the real deal - though the label brought us candy shop and its video (which is light porn, all unto itself, though i don't get olivia's dance scene) - 50 wanted the streets to have disco inferno - and so it leaked to radio and now this video is leaking all over the net. it's beyond nelly's tip drill and i'm not even sure that you'll see it on bet uncut. someone will probably take it down before you even see it. just like those damn mp3s everyone's linking to on that youshareit.com service.

right now i'm trying to find it's artistic merits. but in about a day or two, i'm sure i'll have some womanist rant about all of this.

02.04.05 update: but you also have to look at the video for candy shop to be really clear in your points of view - though i don't think they'll change much

and he hangs out w/bart simpson too

hmm...

update: here's a new link to disco inferno video - and if you're smart you'll simply right click and save, 'cuz most of the time these links stop working after bandwidth is used up

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Oh. My. I watched it without the sound. I think that made it worse.

As long as there are "models" willing to subject themselves to these uncut videos the longer females will have a respect issue not only in hip hop but society as a whole.

posted by KB [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 3, 2005 8:16 PM #

But the question is, will this desire to meld hip hop with the mainstreaming of porn meet up with an equal opposition on the other side. Even with Essence's push to "take back the mic" there doesn't really seem to be any clear backlash. Or better yet, an alternative in the world of hip pop that clearly defines the problem and a solution.

posted by Jason T. [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 3, 2005 8:38 PM #

I'd be surprised if you saw that video anywhere. Except maybe on DVD.

posted by Chuck | February 4, 2005 7:35 AM #

So this is the "new" 50? *smh*

You know... I like bangin beats and I like nudity but, there is something clearly wrong with these new porn clips marketing themselves as "music videos".

posted by j. brotherlove [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 4, 2005 9:48 AM #

Wow. Yeah, I don't see much difference in the "new" 50 from the "old" 50. Having never seen "Tip Drill," I don't really have that to compare it to, but if "Tip Drill" is along these lines, then I wasn't missing anything. I don't like the song as it is, and I guess I'm just a little taken aback. What the hell would this be doing on TV (BET uncut or not), as opposed to being on sale at an adult store (where it belongs)?

Looking forward to your womanist rant, Lynne. I'm starting to think of one on my own...

posted by Anitra [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 4, 2005 10:26 AM #

i think 50 jumped the shark on this one. what's next, penetration?

posted by the crossfader | February 4, 2005 2:11 PM #

At the risk of being slammed, what's the big deal? This is pure poetry. Maybe...That's maybe it will see some light on BET UNcut. That's it. Atleast Essence has something to do now and that can only help him sell recordds I'm guessing. He gotta get some of dem Game numbers.

posted by funkdigital FKA Metalface | February 4, 2005 2:25 PM #

You gots to be kidding, right?

A womanist rant on a 50 Cent video?

Give me a break.

While I'm all in favor of reading Lynne's insightful opinions and thoughts on everything that is wrong with 50 Cent's "Candy Shop" clip, it's really not worthy of any critique.

For one, there are no artistic merits to the clip, much less to the song -- I think 50 Cent will probably tell you that personally. The main purpose of the clip and the song is to sell records -- THAT'S IT. Sex sells, period.

Is it wrong?
Hell yeah. It's wrong like a motherfucker, but it's been going on for years. Britney Spears does the same shit -- have you ever seen the "Toxic" video?

Secondly, a much sanitize version is getting airplay on BET's "106 & Park." The kiddies don't get to see everything, although the edited clip is still raunchy. But the kids don't seem to mind -- the youngins today are use to seeing T&A in a video.

Does it make it right?
Hell no.
I would love it if rappers just stop making these types of videos, period. But a booty shot in a 50 Cent video is not alarming to anyone.

Secondly, 50 Cent's video is airing alongside Trillville's "Some Cut" video. Trillville's "Some Cut" clip has a few ladies showing off their boobs, oh, excuse me, their cleavage.

What's also interesting here is that Trillville's uncut version of the video is available on their official website, while the sanitize version is getting airplay on BET.

My point is this -- if you are going to attack 50 Cent for his porn-like music videos then go after him and all the other rap videos that get airplay on BET's "106 & Park." 50 Cent is not the only one showing booty and sex. Slim Thug is showing booty, T.I. is showing booty and Ludacris is showing plenty of T&A in his next video for "No. 1 Spot/The Potion."

And 50 Cent's "Candy Shop" video is way more PG-13 rated than Nelly's X-rated "Tip Drill" video. What people may not know is that the "Tip Drill" video on BET's "Uncut" is actually an edited version from the one that is featured on Nelly's Tip Drill DVD compilation.

Either way, anyone getting upset over a 50 Cent video and/or song is ridiculous to me.

50 Cent's "Candy Shop" song is wick-wick-wack and the video is no more than eye candy. His video is no more salacious than say, Ashanti's "Only U" video. I saw 'Shanti's butt cheeks in that clip. I didn't hear any protest from the ladies on that video.

But back to 50. I'm quite sure you will see "Candy Shop" on BET's "Uncut." If they can show the Federation's "Donkey" video ["donkey" means big booty in (Bay Area) "Yay" slang), which has plenty of ass, they can show "Candy Shop."

I'm very surprise that you are up in arms over this video. BET's video playlist is full of porn-like music videos.

Is it wrong? Hell yeah. Rappers need to stop this ongoing fetish of objectifying women in music videos.

What can we do? Young people like this shit.

I'm done.

You can now curse me out Lynne. (Be gentle.)

I'm not mad at cha.

posted by Trent | February 4, 2005 2:31 PM #

I love a Lynne rant...

Personally, I enjoy a little nudity here or there... But the problem that I have with hip hop at this moment, is that there is no balance...

If there were female rappers who could do the same to guys, it would be kool... But since their isn't that duality, I fear for the generation of young women coming up seeing themselves objected...

posted by rocka | February 4, 2005 3:09 PM #

trent click on the link for the disco inferno video please - i'm not really talking about candy shop here - and i don't think i'll be cursing you out - nor will i probably have a rant - at the end of the day there are chicks who agree to do these type of stunts, no one is making them do this - but what does it say about these chicks?

this is a forum for y'all to discuss - not me - but i do have a follow up post

posted by lynne [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 4, 2005 4:15 PM #

Aw damn, my bad. I didn't think 50 Cent was going to release a video for "Disco Inferno."

And let me be clear, I think there are some serious problems with these music videos masquerading as porn clips. So I don't have an issue with anyone being outrage by it all. But I'm sayin' -- BET's daily video playlists are filled with videos like "Disco" and "Candy Shop" (either edited down or images blackened out).

I have 2 Live Crew music videos on VHS at home that are way more raunchier than 50's "Disco Inferno" and "Candy Shop" videos combined -- and they were released around 1992.

I don't think kids today will be shocked by 50's "Disco Inferno" video.

As for the video chicks, I think they see it as "a job." It may be a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

I would like to see a female rapper turn the tables. Jacki-O, Trina, Lil Kim where y'all at? I know the ladies want to see some men's asses high in the sky. Ha! Ha!

I'm just joking.
But I'm sayin' -- were you really shock by 50's "Disco" video?

That's PG-13 rated for me.

posted by Trent | February 4, 2005 7:10 PM #

Whoa! I'm speechless. I have to agree with Chuck's comment. I too can't see that video making any tv highlight reels. As much as I hate BET, I don't think that they'd stoop so low as to air that video...even on uncut.

posted by Timi [TypeKey Profile Page] | February 4, 2005 11:01 PM #

"candy shop" isn't that much removed from any other rap video which follows the T&A narrative and it's obvious that "disco inferno" was made with DVD and local cable access shows in mind. exclusivity is as much a selling point as sex is and there has been a marked increase of "uncut" versions of rap videos over the past couple of years -- and by "uncut" i mean not only the stuff that gets played on BET at 3 a.m., but also the uncensored versions of the regular T&A videos that go on to become cultural signifiers on par with rare baseball cards, limited-copy white labels and exlusive dub plates: "oh, you ain't got the titty version of N.E.R.D.'s 'lapdance' or 50's 'P.I.M.P.'? you corny."

the true problem here lies within america's bitches & money mentality: the intersection of a continuously ascending oversexualization and a steadily decreasing amount of things that won't be done for the almighty dollar. rap videos are just an extremely miniscule rivulet off the sea of fear and insecurity which has caused (and continues to be responsible for) wars, slavery, genocide, and such related ills. this conversation is best served by looking at power and the means taken to maintain it, because no amount of self-righteousness over 50's videos is going to address what's really at issue here.

the videos aren't that important. and, besides, neither one is as entertaining as "tip drill." yes. i liked "tip drill." immensely. did i enjoy seeing a bevy of female specimens on my TV screen? of course i did; i'm a heterosexual male. did it speak to some capitalistic male fantasy that i can relate to? of course it did; i (like the overwhelmingly vast majority of us) was raised on and indoctrinated by the value system given to me by the fear peddlers in a myriad of ways -- from the bible to language to schooling to television, etc. it takes work to reprogram one's self after so much bullshit. so i liked "tip drill." besides, i found artistic merit in it. i think it was shot well.

am i elated that there are women who believe that they are empowering themselves by enacting male dreams for a fistful of dollars? no. it saddens me. but not as much as the system which feeds these women the lie that they have very little choice. a system which tells men (black, white, young and old) that: your worth is found in controlling others and subjugating them to your will, and you'll find no one easier to subjugate than a woman. a system which says money is power and respect. all of this makes me sad.

and sometimes, when i'm sad, i look at women's bodies. if we didn't live in a backwards ass world, this would make me happy, beacuse women's bodies are supposed to provide some sort of sensual pleasure to a man. but it's been so perverted that what should give me pleasure instead makes me sad. but in that sadness i never ask, "how do we elimate this video from society?" i ask, "how do we elimate the society that makes this video necessary?"

bottom line: these videos feed many people's families as well as other people's egos. but there has to be a better way. pointing out what's wrong is not the same as looking for what's right. not by a longshot.

posted by exo | February 5, 2005 6:28 AM #

After careful inspection of 50 Cent's "Disco Inferno" video in the privacy of my own home (I couldn't watch it fully 'cause I was at work eariler), I still don't find this clip "shocking."

In fact, this clip fits perfectly into BET's "Un:Cut" video show. If they can show the Federation's "Donkey" video (there's plenty of ass in that clip), they can easily show this video if they cut out a few of the "nudity" scenes. Hell, with a few more edits they could show this video in the daytime. Trust me, if they show Ashanti's butt cheeks in the afternoon ("Only U"), they can show this video.

But this is hardly a shocking video in my eyes.

Sad -- yes
Outrage -- sure

But don't blame this on hip-hop.

Like Michael Eric Dyson says:
"Music should not be burdened with what you and I should be doing as members of society."

posted by Trent | February 5, 2005 8:01 AM #

What Happened to Hip Hop. I am a porn aficiando myself, but even this is kind of much. His new song sounds like "Maguc Stick"!! Wack, Wack I tell you!!!

posted by HumanityCritic | February 5, 2005 7:50 PM #

Yo who knows who the models are in 50's dico video? one gal is tooooo hot!

posted by Jstyle | February 18, 2005 4:06 PM #

Hey Lynne,

50 Cent's "Disco Inferno" video is airing on BET's Un:Cut. In fact, they showed a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the video for "Disco Inferno." And Lynne, they SHOWED EVERYTHING! If you were offended by the video, itself, you should see what was cut out and left on the editing-room floor. Woo-weee!

Director Chris Robinson visited the set and watched all of the action go down, too. Which may explain why he let Amerie show off her butt cheeks in the "1 Thing" video.

Anyway, that Un:Cut show was crazy.

I think BET is thumbing their nose at Essence and any woman who was offended by the "Disco" clip. That show was crazy -- that's all I got to say. It was crazy.

posted by Trent | February 19, 2005 3:53 AM #

i tried the link to see the uncut video, but it doesn't work. help?

posted by h | February 19, 2005 8:08 PM #

I don't know what is so XXX about this video,after seeing Ludacris' "pussy-poppin" video, which portrays actual "p***ys" and oral sex.
Welcome to hip hop.

posted by victorious | February 20, 2005 10:48 AM #

all i wanna know is who is that girl in the 50 cent video candy shop that's on the bed with the projection or whatever that is on the background wall? whoever she is, she is soooo fine, oh baby! i've told many people this by now, she would get it first outta all them chicks in the video (even that nurse). i be watching videos now for the models, and i notice little stuff, but that 1st girl (in the yellow shirt with the brown hair and the caramel complexion) is just something else. i'd mess up my credit for her...no i wouldn't, but i'd sure think about it.

posted by bobby johnson | February 21, 2005 4:45 PM #

SOOOO...who is that girl in the pink top with huge b**bs?? Really wanna know who that us if ne1 has ne ideas????
Cheers

posted by cheggers | March 2, 2005 8:07 AM #

Seriously, anyone know who that nurse is?

posted by billyjean | March 2, 2005 10:51 AM #

men who find this porn acceptable be it this one video or all videos with this crap in it shouldn't try not to blame the artist....not being funny but who's video is it, if the job is accessible, then the girls can't be in it,...

it wouldn't matter WHAT they put in the video if people like the song it'll be a hit, what gets me is that they'll be the first ones talking about they won't show their kids and would be mad if their daughters did some crap like that....

It's all unacceptable and people adding fuel to the fire by asking who the girls are and placing blame on someone elses video, they're ALL wrong but you are responsible for your own actions.

To add on to it parents need to put blocks up on MTV and BET, basically all video stations, and radio.........i've started listening to Rock, at least i don't feel violated or scared when my cousins are around me while non R&B and RAP videos come on...Keep it real we like the BEAT! they could say so much and they keep it nasty, so I lose respect for them quickly...Kanye I have respect for...he's a great example, and yet he sold alot of records and still had girls in the video.....i don't know

BET is the biggest hypocrit of them all T&A from morning to evening and early morning have GOSPEL and crap..............freakin losers I actually hate that station

posted by shuddafuggup | March 9, 2005 6:35 PM #

Two thngs you should remember.

This is not Hip Hop, It is rap, or in the words of the great DJ Premiere"theat is some faggot bitchshit yall are listening too.

Blame the execs for signing the bullshit, because it is more for the white suburbanites than us.

10 years ago Hip Hop was more aimed at the male. There were not as many t&a videos out there. Then you had a bunch of rappers who tried to do the r&b thing and tried to appeal to more women. I am not blaming the victim, but a lot of women i know will sing along to the most degrading lyrics if they feel the bass in the beat in the club, or if it is on the radio.

Too many artist that are on right now are in it for the money clothes and hoes and not the love of the music.

It shows.

We will go out and support the Lil Jon, Nelly, and 50 because that is what is forced fed to us on the radio, but we will not support the album by Mos Def, Talib Kweli, KRS1, or Dead Prez, or give it any air play for one reason. we don't own the radio any more, or the tv for that matter. We like an easy to remember chorus that mentions the club, getting drunk, getting high, or fucking (skeet, skeet, skeet anybody)?

You want it to change, demand that real hip hop gets played on your radio stations as upposed to Lil' Johns newest reproccessed crunktified dumb down wackness.

And stop waiting for the video to come out before you decide if you like a song or not,
U fucking robots.

Feel this

posted by sightunseen | April 11, 2005 9:44 AM #

damn everyone needs to watch dat disco inferno clip

posted by Micheal Naidu | November 18, 2005 6:02 AM #

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